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- Opublikowany 6 mar 2023
- The Olympics has announced its first eSports line up, and the games they chose are… odd.
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The cycling e-sport Zwift is going to literally just be top-level professional cyclists winning. It measures your direct cycling power output, so the fittest cyclist should win. I don't really understand the point, honestly. There's already the cycling competition in the actual olympics.
“Payed by Zwift” is the point
just to rub the neckbeard feelings, ioc is a big jokes. as same as any sports committees. Predictable lol
@Michael Mechex I'm not disagreeing with you. As I said (and have reiterated several times), I think a professional rider from one of the different racing disciplines will win. It might be a pro criterium rider, as you've said. But I think it's very unlikely to be a zwift-only rider if pros are able to compete. People don't get how absurdly good real-life pros are compared to everyone else.
@Downhill On The Upside have you even read my comment? Zwift isn't about pure power. It's basically a virtual crit race, if you go attack off the front, the bunch has an aero advantage and is very likely to catch up.
The saddest thing for me is that millions of people will think that this really is esports
@Nemesis33 There's already guns in the olympics. Biathlon and skeet shooting are both a thing in the olympics.
@Nick Bilske yeah an old practice that isn't common anymore or in a few elite circle, you know what i meant
@Nemesis33 they already have guns in the Olympics
@ATTILAvs2 GAMING yeah exactly
@Nemesis33 they want to implement electonic sports, and say " Yeah but now esports is on the olympics, watch that" when it has nothing close to esports, and profit
I think they misunderstood the term "esports." It isn't electronic versions of sports.
They did not misunderstand. The decided to ignore that fact
They didn’t misunderstand anything, they just want to make monesy
they litterally out right said, they didn't look into it
Exactly. Chess is already a GAME! A 1v1 deathmatch game that you sit down to play. Why make it an e-sports game????
Honestly it seems like the games they chose are all just the companies that paid them the most, these are such bizarre choices, but that at least makes more sense.
You bring up a good point about the companies having close relationships to governing bodies. I wonder if that also could be it
@Dawid Izydor aimbot in tte olympics
Excactly this, like the Tic Tak Bow game will be downloaded by millions and will get a lot of money in revenue just because of a lot of peolpe have the dream to become an olympian.
At the same time this will be a completly new level of cheating because people will figure out how to get an aimbot etc
Surely, League of frikkin Legends big daddy Tencent could have easily outbid any of these joke companies. Same could be said for Blizzard especially with the upcoming acquisition by Microsoft. Even Epic Games should have more budget than any of the companies behind the selected games.
It's pretty blatantly obvious that the IOC did this to protect the monopoly of its member federations by making the selected titles fall under the umbrella of existing sports categories. We won't see any real e-sports until IOC recognizes the International Esports Federation (IESF) as a member.
One of the higher ups in the comitee is financially invested in the indie console and the tic tak bow game company. =
That’s how they pick which city hosts the games, so it makes sense
I think they missed a massive opportunity not having VR games in the Olympics, its the perfect crossover between gaminess and physicality. Games like Beat Saber, Echo VR (RIP), Gorilla Tag and any of the sim shooter combat games would have been an amazing fit.
Beat Saber would be really fun! I would be down for that!
@Christopher Anderson nah it would be Asians
@Justin Curley I would too but it would be some really skinny gangly white guys winning Olympic beat saber lol
The Olympics is pretty pacifist, they were talking about taking archery out or the marksmanship portion of triathlon out for a while. So shooter games of any type are probably never going to be seen.
Is there value in a VR game as opposed to just doing it physically? Outside of cost savings.
Would've been baller with Trackmania for the racing game, that franchise has such an ungodly high skill ceiling.
@Yukon Willeh which is why it's good that there's people like the programmer that worked with wirtual to expose plenty of cheaters and that the cheater detecting program was patched into the official game by nadeo :y
Besides, with the olympics it'd be a live event where you literally can't get away with playing in slow-motion.
@Michael Mechex People claiming the high skill ceiling is what my comment was in relation to, and they may be misled by the cheater filled leader-boards, (people cheat in live e-sports tourneys all the time btw)
and 2 seconds of googling shows there is exactly the same kind of cheating happening in tm2020 as in the previous title.
@Yukon Willeh that is all gone and never happened in TM2020 in the first place. Also how exactly do you think this would be possible in a live tournament?
allot of that "skill" is actually cheating, allot of the world records are done using cheat programs unfortunately, the replays that look amazing wont reflect the cheating either, the cheat essentially slows the game waaaaay down, making peoples reaction time look godlike in the replays
And with that the Olympic Committee for eSports has demonstrated that they have no idea how to properly define what an eSport is.
@FluffyCorgi i know sarcasm can be hard to detect when it's written but cmon it's obvious..
@FluffyCorgi Just wanted to give a heads-up: high probability that the person you responded to already knows that.
They are using the language of sarcasm
@re syntax Im sorry to bust your bubble. But thats realistically how it works out here in SEA. Personal relationships and connections are half the battle.
@Michael Santino no, the Olympics would never do something like that. Who would manipulate for their own personal gain, unimaginable.
2-3 of the games are directly tied to one of the committee memberz.
IOC: "We're doing eSports!"
Us: "Oh cool, what competitive games do you have?"
IOC: "...there are competitive games?"
Us: "...what...what do you think sports ARE?"
@Rya 31 yes I'm dumb I know :')
@Albertamere US is what your looking for, as acronyms have all their letters capitalized. The first letter of a sentence is typically capitalized.
@Albertamere Us as in the group of people WE, not the nation
That alone is such a red flag, the Council that chooses sports can't follow their own instructions and requirements for what a sport is.
Bring a dictionary and a detective cuz money definitely changed hands
This is beyond insane.
But really, the dance category should be expanded to include more rhythm games and measure an "e-athlete's" prowess across all of them.
There's plenty to choose from that can accurately score players.
Zwift racing is already recognized by the world cycling federation, UCI. There are official world championships e-sport racing and the winners and their avatars get to wear the official UCI world championship rainbow jersey. Zwift also is a big sponsor of actual road cycling, being the headline sponsor of the Tour de France Femmes. There is a lot of overlap with road racing (though not with track racing), but it is slightly different, like there is a lot of overlap between the different swimming and running events.
Yeah sure, but if the objective was to broaden horizons and include different types of sports, Zwift doesn't tick any of those boxes. The equivalent would be including a marginally different type of stroke in swimming, it's not increasing the inclusivity of the games, nor widening opportunities for upcoming athletes. It's a proper garbage decision. Especially for the forms of biking that remain unrepresented in the olympics, whilst this is....
Just Dance is a great game series! And it's something physical closer to real dance sports. That said, I don't believe it should be Olympic. I agree that DDR would be so much better!
@Honza That's your definition but apparently not IOC's.
That it's close to real competition isnexactly the reason why it shouldn't be olympic. E-sports should be competition that require specific skills, not just lesser immitations of real sports.
@Terry Honestly having human judges kinda defeats the purpose of it being virtual, to make performance rating objective.
I hope in the future they would address that issue directly, otherwise then Just Dance is still not the best option.
Just Dance already has a competitive scene where it was showcased on the Paris ESW.
It's typically judged with 3 judges and participants have to reproduce the choreography on the screen as close as possible.
Using judges also removes the issue of different body types and height not syncing to the sensors.
It would be incredible to see Chess and Go and other boardgames all at a shared extremely high profile event.
There should be a board game Olympics and a video game Olympics. Each one could take an in-between year between the summer and winter games
Oh so monopoly, operation, and snakes and ladders? /S
The game they show in 14:15 is actually Pump It Up and even though I'm biased I'd say it's more apt for something like the olympics mostly because of how konami limits DDR availability in the world.
There are international competitions and even an official world championship, the World Pump Festival. Usually the categories are for speed where it's a measure of pure skill and the score given by the machine matters, but there's also a Freestyle mode where players make choreographies and a judge scores it. This one from WPF 2016 is a favorite of mine as well as many others: plclip.com/video/PqCh-_Tvbf8/wideo.html
As for speed play, there was an international competition last year callled "The BIG ONE", you can see the final play for the Speed Male category here: plclip.com/video/zPJCkPsViwI/wideo.html
@Conjo i forgot about latin america lol. I heard that there also is a piu community in australia but that may not be true im not sure. Anything with konami involved is pretty much out at this point because they are kinda screwing everyone over. ITG/stepmania whatever would be a hassle again because of konami and everything. I don't think song liscensing would be an issue because i feel like theoretically the olympic commitee would be choosing the songs and charts or charting it themselves
@Nathan S There are a lot of PIU machines in latin america (far more than DDR), as well as quite a few in the US and Canada (whre I'd guess the amount to be equal or more than current DDR, tbh). My point is more about how konami limits availability. Say you wanted to buy a machine, they wouldn't let you as they only allow(ed?) bulk purchases (for certain countries at least). That's why you'll see DDR mostly in big arcades like Round1 or Dave & Busters. I think they also limit their online system (which seems to be required for it to work? not fully sure) to certain locations only. And apparently not all the machines in the US are running the latest version either (which according to wikipedia, they only sell upgrade kits for it on Asia, Australasia, and Hawaii). Given that, the latest official version you might see in many coutnries is DDR X2 or X3 vs 2nd Mix at most. But for PIU you can just buy it, or an upgrade kit, without issues like that. There's even some people that just buy old pads, use their own hardware and just buy the game
Another option would be ITG (on OpenITG or something) but then, you can't really purchase that new, and there might be some legal issues regarding song licensing (since you wouldn't really be paying for them)
Piu would make little sense because people only really play in Korea and some other Asian countries. There are very little machines anywhere else in the world
Agreed, Pump would be a better fit and yeah the lack of other dance machines in NA has been a thing for years (ever since Konami killed off "In The Groove"). Although there is Stepmania X but i have yet to see any of the cabinets anywhere.
I think there's a lot of rhythm games that leave a lot of room for creativity and style. Although I haven't played it myself, Dacerush Stardom seems to also be a good example of this.
Zwift is awesome. Resistance changes according to the grade of the roads in the game. It's a really good way to exercise in the winter.
Zwift will bring all the subgenres of cycling together at least. w/kg matters, but there is also a bit of strategy. So ya more than likely a professional cyclist will win, but will it be a velodrome rider, tri-athlete, road racer, mountain biker... etc. As someone whos on Zwift and a mountain biker, I'm actually excited to see what happens.
Cant belive they dont have real esports at the olympics
+1 for Olympic DDR/beatmania. Could have a subcategory for sight-reading, where it's based on the competitor's ability to read a completely new step pattern on the fly.
Virtual regatta is amazing for a sailing game. Sailing is like a chess match but they already have sailing, actual sailing... Not even sure virtual regatta models taking wind from opponents
The goal was to line the pockets of those who selected the games and their mates
eBaseball Powerful Pros isn't a MTX filled mobile game like the others he listed, it's a major console game made by Konami, but it's Japanese only and follows the Nippon Professional Baseball league. It should be compared to Gran Turismo and Just Dance imo.
They made two games for the MLB called MLB Power Pros and MLB Power Pros 2008 that were really good. I haven't played the new Japanese-only games, and I definitely haven't heard of this latest release being shown at the Olympics (apparently it's a very limited version of the full 2022 release sold for cheap for this Olympics push) but as far as I can tell there's traditionally been 0 MTX in these games (which is rare for a console sports game). People have been calling for English localizations for a while even if it doesn't follow the MLB, because it's considered to be that good of a game.
You are 100% correct about Zwift. It's just gonna be another way for the top pros to win an Olympic medal
The virtual taekwondo is made by Refract Technologies. They had a showcase of it at the commonwealth esports games but that was about it. Its most likely a modded dev branch of the kickstarter game FreeStrikers.
The virtual taekwondo thing is basically SlimeVR. Since SlimeVR is open-source hardware, it might literally just be SlimeVR with a different name
Glad you caught the iRacing v Project Cars swap. Project cars is miserable for simulation quality. The only sim racing games you see racing drivers playing regularly are iRacing, Asseto Corsa (mostly because of the mod capabilities, and occasionally the F1 games. But iRacing is so far ahead of everything else, it's just hard to compare.
I love how they put DDR competition in Google and the video that comes up is Pump it Up.
Let's go Pump it Up for the Olympics!
My favorite ddr performance is still Monty Oum. He would legitimately just full on dance, arms and all. And still be hitting the arrows perfectly somehow. Always looked more impressive than someone just holding onto the railings and moving their feet
well because its a whole different category.
RIP Monty Oum
I didn't realise he was so good, but it makes sense with how great an animator he was. He clearly understood how people move and how to make it appealing *really* well.
I would have actually loved if Farming Simulator made it into the Olympics it’s just the kind of bonkers and far from reality type of Esport that would be great to grab attention. And the Farm SIM E Sport Community is already pretty big so you would have a great base.
I looked up competitive just dance when I saw this announcement. To my knowledge the scoring system in those games are not very strict.
The tournaments are really well produced. The competitors seems to do the dance routines from the game. Which is then scored by a judge panel.
Seems to be a cool thing. Though at this point this is literally dancing with the game just picking available music and dance routines and nothing else. The format could (and perhaps should) be a real Olympic sport.
Seeing something like pump it up or dancerush stardom would have been cool.
Imagine if it was ddr and these professionals athletes who are in the finals can choose their own song “custom songs” that can be dlc after the olympics like the specific Olympic chosen songs sounds like a big win for olympics and for ddr
Yes, such a missed opportunity. All for a short-term gain.
I mean, if they go that route, everybody wins. DDR (or its clones) already have a legit competitive scene, and they're a very well-known brand, so the viewers get to see the players' skill on display, just like an actual sport. As a matter of fact, it IS a sport, with all the hallmarks of a sport - skill, physical exertion, and ruleset. The only thing different is that it's not an organized sport. The IOC also wins, because of merchandizing opportunity. Only this time, merchandizing would be much simpler because half of it is just the songs/tracks they use (the other might be customized pads, sneakers etc.).
Absolutely moronic move by the IOC here.
if the point is the highest score, then the just dance competitive meta would be a static person just moving his phone to the necessary place so it assumes that you did the right thing and get you a perfect score
Okay Zwift theoretically sounds cool, I’d love to see professional cyclists having to do loops and jumps
i still remember having watched Linus's Mouse review of a Corsair mmo gaming mouse that had ergonomic thumb buttons. he was a kid really. but his enthusiasm was quite convincing. i subbed that day and bought the mouse, which i used for years until it fell apart. still miss this mouse.
I really wish that instead of Just dance, that maybe they went with ddr or even Beat Saber. Beat saber maps can get to be very complex and very skill based. I feel like the Just Dance competition will literally just be luck of the draw with whoever's joycon seems to be working the best that day.
Board game olympics yesssss! One step closer to my childhood dream of winning a gold medal in Hungry Hungry Hippos.
Linus is gonna be an e-lympian gold medalist in no time.
The Olympics video games have always been known for rock-solid game play and being free of bugs
It has to be a spectator sport that everyone can just understand. DDR is just dancing, with direction. That's good. A fighting game too. Easy concept to understand.
should have a real game category for e-sports... like Rythm game, fighting game, Shooter, etc
As someone who got **really** good at DDR I would pay a whole heap of cash to see that in the olympics 🤣🤣🤣
Zwift is already used for a e sport world championship and the winners are not the pro level cyclists because they don't care and the tactics and strength requirements are a bit different
Honestly I've been hopping for eSports Olympic for some time now, because in CSGO, France could have a really good team.
And now that it's here I'm completely disappointed and I think almost nobody will watch or go to the eSports Olympic.
You would've thought that they would include competitive games but no.
How hard would it have been to ask people who know competitive eSports and just take the games that they give you.
Anybody knowing gaming could give a pretty good list of games that would be ok.
Like just having CSGO, league of legends, sport games (fifa, NHL, MLB, NFL, NBA), beat saber, SSB, Pavlov, fall guys, speedrunners, trackmania.
It didn't even take me 20 minutes and I already have a list of games that could make some good Olympics.
And for some of these, I just opened my steam library and looked, they could have gone to the most popular games on steam and get some good games from there too. They will understand how stupid this move was once the first organized one will be passed, they will lose so much money on that.
Strange some of those games being recently listed and the ones releasing have developer connections with certain members of the Olympic council... Nah! Just sheer coincidence those were picked!
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Writer, who watches as he says this: *Sweating profusely*
Fre video idea spawned from this episode. "1v1 me bro!" Machine, which is an arcade style machine with two controllers and some eSports type games pre loaded. You can challenge members of the crew to settle debates!
That would actually make good content. Linus' team has the capability to engineer their own arcade machine, so it's very doable. For the core, it can be a gaming PC, or something like a RaspPi 4. Get two arcade controllers attached, and do a side-by-side camera view for the audience. The game doesn't even have to be something serious, as long as it's entertaining enough for a couch co-op.
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are they adding them as a permanent thing or just an exhibition, like they did with skateboarding ?
I can definitely see the argument for Chess to be included in the Olympics, but why as a computer game and not the actual board game!! 😖
Can also see the argument for computer games, but they should be games that already have an active competitive scene, and not just the computer version of a board game.
Virtual taekwondo is literally people fighting against someone via a computer. It's very similar to the cycling one. It's literally just fighting with out hitting
The (unfortunate) thing is, it actually kind of makes sense that they're so focused on mobile games, with a few exceptions. Sports are a common denominator between large groups of people - whether or not you're a professional athlete, you probably know and recognize most olympic sports. Across all people in general, PC/console gaming is far more niche than mobile gaming, even if the actual quality of the games is in general much higher. From a pure business standpoint, it makes sense to go with the games that have the largest potential audience. It's just a shame when we know there are actual interesting and engaging esports experiences out there.
Tic-Tac-Bow had 500 Downloads at the time of the announcement. Not 500mil, but just 500. The more sensible option would be Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games.
Sure, but that doesn’t explain them choosing games that no one has heard of because they hadn’t come out yet at time of selection
I love how you can tell that only the most out of touch, dinosaur-brained codgers picked these games. You know multiple people in a meeting stood up and said, "But we don't have that as an event at the regular Olympics!" whenever someone tried to bring up something people actually play. I can almost excuse the corruption as just an extension of this incompetence, where one of these dinosaurs decided they'd make a game about an Olympic sport to fill a "gap".
I know in years previous the committee had expressed apprehension about including any games that involve direct competition between entrants as well, but this is absurd.
I've always wanted a really scaled-down FPS with simple graphics designed for competition. Trackmania meets Unreal Tournament
They could have used Wii Sport and Wii Sport resort for legit everything, for dancing Beat Saber would have been fun and for maximal fun, chess should have been the 5d chess with time travel game from steam or how ever it is called
18:14 literally laughed out loud so hard i startled myself
I could watch Olympic Level Mario Kart. Imagine representing your country and then slipping on a banana peel at the last second.
Honestly, Pump It Up/DDR for dance games(though they are rhythm games, doesn't matter), shooter games like CS for archery, something like idk Tekken/MK/any other fighting games for the martial arts and it already becomes fun to watch, especially with all of them having dedicated communities. Like Jesus, olympics committee sucks but I hoped they don't suck this hard
Tic tack bow was made by one of the persons in the committee for choosing the games and sports. If I'm not wrong he actually made two
My whole thing is that the Olympics is fun to watch, regardless of the sport, because it's fascinating to see experts display their craft. It's why I'll watch Olympic curling or art restoration videos on PLclip. Watching experts work is highly entertaining. Will I watch NBA basketball during the regular season? Not likely. Will I watch the NBA finals? Absolutely.
Olympic art restoration is news to me.
The choices for Olympic esports is certain an odd choice of games. I agree with chess, but I'm not really sold on the rest. DDR was my first thought. League and Dota could just be ran in the summer and winter alternating, but I understand using games that are no longer receiving updates. I don't understand using games that aren't some form of VR either Wiifit, xbox connect, ect.
I did a double take half way through to make sure it wasn't April fool's day. This is so absurd it feels like a joke.
LOL There needs to be a dedicated camera feed for whatever phone Linus holds up to the camera. Its like a grandma taking a pictures of a computer screen. The amount of times I have seen Linus recently just hold up his or another phone to what is an awkwardly placed camera is TOO D*MN HIGH haha.
One of the people in the committee works for the company that makes most of those pay to win games (and that karate game that uses a console you could only get from a kickstarter a year ago)
Wow what are the odds of that happening I’m sure that’s because he just knows good games when he sees them and not a whole but of corrupt Tom foolery.
Olympic pulled out a "we have e-sports at home" on this one.
Normal chess was originally in the modern Olympics along with poetry I think? The oldest Olympian was an 80 year old poet
so basically they managed to displease both traditional sports fans and gamers at the same time.
Beat saber seems like it would have been a great idea.
Don't forget that this is the 5th or 6th official Just Dance World Cup and the first to be in the Olympics. So there is history of official competitive Just Dance.
iRacing would have been the best for racing, but keep in mind you need to invest a lot for that too!
The technological development of sport driven by (rich countries in) the Olympics increases the precision of measuring techniques and human performance. Do any of the games and input methods on this list stand to develop technologically in the next fifteen years from the increased attention that being in the Olympics brings?
If you think about it, Zwift and outdoor cycling are about as similar as iRacing and IRL racing. They both try to provide a simulation of the real thing. So I'm not sure why one would sound like a good idea and the other wouldn't.
@Reuben Sandwich that's my whole point? Every game on a high level is mentaly strenuous, even something like tetris or super Mario.
Irl racing physical - iracing skill/concentration
Irl cycling physical - Zwift physical
If Zwift needs the same skillset irl vs virtual why even bother?
@Dezi It's not physically strenuous, just mentally strenuous.
Am i missing something or how is iraceing even nearly as strenuous as real racing? Mabe if you have the 10k+ actuated racing setup, but else it mostly focuse on skill alone. Depending on the rules you could even compete with a joystick so nearly everyone could compete.
Zwift it looks like you need the physical abilities like on a real bike as you have to paddle and it responds how fast you go with how fast you peddle.
Availability is a big factor, most people can buy a bike and ride it around town or on a road, but very few can buy a racecar and drive it around track. Proper sim car setups do cost a bit, but a cheap wheel/pedals and a ps4 will get you far. With cycling you could buy a bike for less than the zwift machine and get a better experience.
I live in the Olympic capital, and am a bit ashamed, even if I don't have anything to do with it. Olympics have a great tradition and their spirit is somehow alive in many people, but I guess that whenever there's too much money involved, power and politics are involved, and all good will is just a liability.
Having participated and hosted DDR tournaments, DDR or PIU would the most viable and sensible choice to add as an esport.
We already had this back in the day. It was called World Cyber Games.
3 of the games are made by a company headed by 1 guy on the committee responsible for picking the games for this
not sus at all
in regards to swift, the same can be said for rowing but they have full on indoor erg world championships so it makes sense to have an indoor virtual cycling
when e-sport olympics is mentioned I go straight back to the game on the ZX Spectrum
Virtual Cycling is literally the most inmersive and complete real-life sport simulations possible, next to Racing sims. I waited all my life to see something like COD or CSGO with something like real running, aiming and shooting, but this in relative terms is way way more involved. With regards of the actual racing, Zwift is way way different from real road racing, the strategy, powerups, dynamics are all different
There are already indoor cycling competitions, especially in the winter/offseason, so I think it makes sense. The other options except GT and chess are total dogshit though. Wouldn't expect anything more from IOC anyways...
eBaseball is actually a great choice, it has been Japan's national esports and have been competitively focused (and balanced) for a while by Konami.
When are they adding concept 2 racing to the Olympics. I want to see the rowers in even more pain than they already are
If the IOC were smart they would hire developers to make consistent, olympic themed clones of popular esports games (or work with the companies to create forks that are controlled by the IOC.)
if they were smart they would just use existing competitive games
- Too expensive for the IOC.
- Publishers won't be that kind to allow a fork, even for the IOC. It's too generous to share that kind of profit. At most they would like sponsor and have some partnership in-game stuffs like Capcom's Olympic skins for SFV.
- I argue popularity is a really shitty metric for what kind of game you should be including. There is no guarantee that even if a "popular" esports is included in the Olympics, that it will actually bring that audience in anyway. Spectatorship is not the same as popularity, because you need to remember that a lot of games are popular to play, but not necessarily to watch.
- You're right about IOC wanting control, that's kinda why they chose these companies who are willing to be controlled by them in terms of presentation and ruleset.
At 9:30 when they’re talking about how the Olympics were already pay to win they forgot to mention which country pays to dope the best! 😂 Every country is guilty of that one!
you just pick the top 5 by viewership or by playerbase and run a tournament in each of those
Gran Turismo could acutally be cool, but they need to ensure everyone has the same set up, same PC, same controls, same monitors. You don't want to introduce elements related to hardware into the game.
well its playstation only so not really gonna be a problem, tho it would be fun to see keyboard vs controller vs steering wheel + HD Intel laptop with 8" 1024x768 vs 7080TTIIGTYXZ VR 18k headset.
@Honza not necessarily, certain cars cant race on some tracks so those could be put in the virtual world.
Why, other sports also have different equipment best suited for the competitor.
Anyway, i think that there should've been different game, like mario kart or trackmania - something more distant from what can be done in reality, because what's the point of immitating reality instead of making an actual event?
@Bad Way this is literally surface level knowledge
@Bad Way Hot take: They should've gone full-on arcade racing with something like Trackmania. There are enough official racing e-sports sponsored by actual racing organizations anyways.
UT 2004. Done. Problem solved. I'm closer to being an Olympic athlete than ever before!
Track Ania as racing game would have been hella fun to watch actually
Is Blobby Volley on the list? I loved that game back in the days
Sim games would be so could, like you could bring in games like DCS (Digital Combat Simulator) where people fly super realistic 1 to 1 jets and have them dogfight.
18:47 I like to see Wintergatan's marble machine video listed...but they only watched a few seconds of it? C'mon that video is awesome!
The arms behind on the bar is a crutch for ddr. Its a sign of a ddr player that is at the cusp of truely understanding the game. The game is a language you speak with your body. Learning the game means learning the language, which is teaching your body to fluidly execute common move sets automatically while just barely keeping your eye on the screen, then as you increase the difficulty you learn how to deal with variations to those basic move sets and how to slowly increase the speed and complexity of each set. The hardest difficulties require that you know the basic and variations of the move sets perfectly then subtley edits them and cancels at odd times turning both requiring your fluency and then turning it against you as you struggle to switch gears from a move set you have tone thousands of times.
Grand Turismo? Not iRacing?
Edit: The Board Game Olympics is already a thing. Mega64 does it every year (just passed about 3 weeks ago). They live stream playing all types of board games and they are competing for 1k in Amazon gift cards.
They didn't mention how these "games" come from companies which are owned/associated with people in the "Olympic" body which chose them.
Honestly the baseball game comes from a long running Japanese series and has no micro transactions plus its a well liked game in East Asia. Not an awful pick
That’s a game that takes real skill.
The only esports game on this list that makes sense is sim racing.
chess technically too even though it isn't an esport
Virtual Taikwando is such a mysterious game.
Im so confused? They literaly had street fighter v and rocket luege for the olympics in japan. Even tho rocket luega aint exactly mlg its based of established realy pop sport and most importantly easy to understand sf to. Also sf has the benefit of longest runin e sport next to quake and very active still whilst bein pop.
I agree with Luke about Zwift being a weird choice because it’s basically the same as the physical sport. Digital chess too - especially if they’re sitting in the same room… At least with something like DDR it’s quite different from actual dancing. Simulations for more dangerous and expensive things like iRacing do make sense tho - you can have a lot more people compete in a sim than actual NASCAR. But Zwift, which looks like you basically are doing exactly the same thing as riding a real bike…. Feels pointless when Olympians can get on a real bike
I’m with Luke on zwift… that said real athletes do sorta win that already.
Well, this is what happen when executives from Refract Technologies have direct ties to the Global Esports Federation and Singapore Esports Association. You get 2 of their shitty games at the Olympics.
Right like 2 of the games are produced by one of the guys on the board who selected the games. And the taekwondo one you are only able to play it on a specific kickstarter console that the board member made?
That new game released got someone in the olympics that have connection to the devs I think I've read somewhere. This is a mockery of e-sport and olympics lol