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AMD lied...but Intel Xeon is saving the day!!

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Komentarze • 113

  • Dave
    Dave Miesiąc temu +160

    I would love a video on total price of all active hardware but too many morons don't realize it is a business expense.

    • Chubbysumo
      Chubbysumo Miesiąc temu +27

      Not just a business expense, but necessary for business. We have to remember that lmg is a business. It would also likely help them find a lot of wasteful spending, or spending that could have been done more efficiently.

    • Sunbleached Angel
      Sunbleached Angel Miesiąc temu +2

      Which doesn't really mean much anyway

  • Bruh TV
    Bruh TV Miesiąc temu +112

    I think Linus pays way too much attention to haters. There's absolutely no way to silence those people

    • Kurtis O'Brien
      Kurtis O'Brien Miesiąc temu +5

      Yeah I think it’s really silly for him to get stunlocked on the money stuff. He’s obviously talking in relative terms. a $75 quality mobo is objectively cheap compared to most others. $300 ram is objectively expensive compared to most others. idgi

    • almafuertegmailcom
      almafuertegmailcom Miesiąc temu +13

      He does the exact same thing he complains about, just to people that have *more money than him*. Every leftist does this, they just draw the line at whatever amount of money they have. He's doing fairly well, so he focuses on Elon, for example. But it's not different.

  • Edgar Kondrakov
    Edgar Kondrakov Miesiąc temu +232

    And after 20 years we will buy it for 50 bucks from aliexpress.

    • Nivea87
      Nivea87 Miesiąc temu

      I whait to chinas cpus, u will upgrade to Shenzen x4D Quantum Ultra

    • NoName
      NoName Miesiąc temu

      @EaqIe originally that was a comment to point of a typo
      but I left it because right now Intel is trying to sell features after it already sold the chip (some unlockable idiocy), so it works as a joke that we will be renting chips and not buying them.

    • Río
      Río Miesiąc temu

      @Edgar Kondrakov you made a claim about the future when you said 50 bucks in 20 years, but when I do it, it’s a problem? Lmao

    • Río
      Río Miesiąc temu

      In 20 years consumer chips will be better and cheaper

  • Cornelius
    Cornelius Miesiąc temu +13

    You guys should do a video instead where you total the number of CPU cores, gb of ram, cuda cores, terabytes of storage among your workstations and you can do it with a script on each machine

    • RegentalGuide
      RegentalGuide Miesiąc temu


    • Dev Reaper
      Dev Reaper Miesiąc temu +2

      I do think how much raw theoretical computational power lmg has is for sure gonna fly better with most people than total MSRP

  • Jon Dubois
    Jon Dubois Miesiąc temu +4

    The science research aspect is huge for smaller schools. My Physical Chemistry professor used an array of over a dozen 2012 Macs to run Sim software. All that could be replaced by a single midrange workstation, reducing complexity while probably increasing performance. This kind of tech saves labs hours of time every week. It changes the scope of research projects and the quality of their data since they can run more duplicates with my parameters. I would've killed for this a couple years ago

  • GooblysGaming
    GooblysGaming Miesiąc temu +4

    I really enjoy when LTT does budget stuff. There's gonna be people that are unhappy with everything.
    However, I'm constantly looking at the best option for lots of stuff (USB-C to 3.5mm, lighters, drives, TVs, monitors, phone chargers, ect) I actually trust LTT. Having them navigate products even if they're something as little as a USB-C to 3.5mm it really helps me out. Especially with the flood of junk on Amazon. I'm all about the best quality for the money, but only getting something that's like 5% better for 65% more cost doesn't make sense to me. I don't want to pay for the name on the product. I want to pay for quality and good customer care.

  • Jono Grimmer
    Jono Grimmer Miesiąc temu +53

    AMD did what Intel would have done in their situation.
    They are both corporations who don’t care about you just profit. It’s frustrating but same on red green or blue sides of the tech tree

    • Jono Grimmer
      Jono Grimmer Miesiąc temu +1

      @Alfa ProtoI’m not surprised - it’s not being ‘evil’ just seeking profit at all costs & hoping people will take it (they have so far from all all colours). AMD are no more evil as you put it than the rest

    • J S
      J S Miesiąc temu +9

      You may be correct, but that does not mean we should not expect them to care about consumers. When people celebrate AMD "caring" about their audience, celebrating that behavior is a good thing. We don't immediately cynically say "they're just doing it to manipulate you into buying their products", we mark it as something good.
      Because when we respond to all good and bad actions of these companies with "they're corporations who only care about profit" we open the doors for that to be an excuse for their anti-consumer behavior. We should expect Intel, AMD, NVIDIA, Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Apple, EVERYONE, to care about their consumers over a relentless drive for profit, even if that will not happen soon or at least easily.

  • Lewis Brown
    Lewis Brown Miesiąc temu +6

    To find the cost of all your workstations, do you not have some inventory software that can output hardware and components into a database for you? You could export to excel and add a pivot table for the cost of each part to give you an overall total and a individual break down of each workstation

    • CaMiX
      CaMiX 26 dni temu +2

      Na that would be too easy. Linus primarily does these extravagant project videos to help build his business on super expensive stuff that he gets for free via "sponsorship". Those videos just come off as flashy, annoying and hardly useful.

  • beansnrice321
    beansnrice321 Miesiąc temu +3

    Super excited for this. Have been looking for a pile of pcie lanes, for my next cpu and intel has delivered.

  • Joe Meyer
    Joe Meyer Miesiąc temu +21

    I wanted threadripper for home lab stuff, I don’t need a server chip but want some more pci lanes for deep learning

    • Ping
      Ping 27 dni temu

      X670E any good?

    • Cairnex
      Cairnex Miesiąc temu +3

      Exactly the same here. I want the platform and the IO not necessarily 24+ cores

  • Ghozer
    Ghozer Miesiąc temu +1

    It would be interesting to know, because it shows what kind of expense is needed to set up like you guys have, but then you could make it actually useful by including upkeep costs, replacement drives, PSU's, working out costs due to when you upgrade components and how often etc.... laptops the same..

  • Paul Gerald
    Paul Gerald Miesiąc temu +9

    Hey guys. Longtime subscriber to the main channel.
    I last built a system for myself in the WIndows 2000, WIndows XP days. Could you provide a rundown on the differences between the processor classes. Server vs. Workstation vs. Mainstream class processors. What the differences and benefits are between each?

    • AnAngryGiant20
      AnAngryGiant20 Miesiąc temu

      That all depends on if you want it for work or for hobby

  • T. M.
    T. M. Miesiąc temu

    I loved your openness about everything, it's a shame you're going to do it less

  • Frank Cooke
    Frank Cooke Miesiąc temu +2

    I had a 12 year old PC, with an x58 motherboard, I got a Xeon for like 30 bucks to replace the second generation i7 that was in it - It was a lifesaver.

  • Kowala master
    Kowala master Miesiąc temu +4

    I have been waiting for a PC with more lanes than my X79. that has all the latest stuff gen 5 and what-not.
    Finally An upgrade I can get behind.

  • TallRocko
    TallRocko Miesiąc temu +1

    I would love for amd to bring threadripper back and replace threadripper pro. I believe they could re release threadripper with two chipsets an expensive one that fully unlocks all the professional aspects and a trimmed down chipsets for enthusists and people who don't need the full. In other words I believe they should have one chip line and two chipsets one for threadripper and one for threadripper pro.

  • Cazey
    Cazey Miesiąc temu

    I could definetly see a tiktoks/shorst/reels about the price of LTT's hardware that's in use performing very well. Even separating them by use or department and making it a series like "how much does our editors work stations cost" etc, tiktok audiences would be more tolerant of it since there's tons of content I've seen like that on the platform already.

  • J S
    J S Miesiąc temu +1

    I love the commentary you guys provided and the recent video regarding Intel Xeons, but I'm wondering how on earth the older video about Threadripper non-Pro was made when that goes into detail (in my opinion incorrectly) about how 16+ cores and more than 24/28 PCIe lanes aren't necessary for even home server usage. It's kind of ridiculous how the same person on the same channel is getting excited about HEDT and workstation platforms being supported by Intel/AMD, while ALSO making a video about how we should re-evaluate our needs for HEDT CPUs and, more importantly, argue for why HEDT is dead and seemingly support the reasons behind it.

  • Richard Risner
    Richard Risner Miesiąc temu +11

    For a general viewership video, just adding up how much all of your stuff costs would definitely be flexing. But you can make a floatplane exclusive for people who are just generally curious about your channel and already fans

    • Brandon W.
      Brandon W. Miesiąc temu

      A floatplane video like that would definitely incentivize me!

  • Sean Kaelan
    Sean Kaelan Miesiąc temu +8

    The problem with the money videos is there’s no way you can possibly cater to every persons opinion. On a recent zach’s tech tips video, the comment section was in a war over what classifies as a budget pc. I remember years ago when you had those money per dollar gaming pc’s you guys took to ltx and the athlon 3000g review, low spec gamer made a whole series of videos explaining how your perspective (Canadian based Ltt writers) was uneducated on how the rest of the worlds economy works. Every time ltt makes a used part video, Brian from tech yes city and any used parts enthusiast will expose why the videos are flawed.
    Except the mining gpu video, that was good.

    • Sean Kaelan
      Sean Kaelan Miesiąc temu

      @Santiago Finamore yeah. I think they just need to do more research half the time

    • Santiago Finamore
      Santiago Finamore Miesiąc temu +1

      People just want to be angry at things I guess, tbh it kinda sucks to me that we're missing on some legitimately fun video ideas because some people are hyper-touchy when it comes to pockets

  • sku2007
    sku2007 Miesiąc temu +1

    since you have more than 100 machines, don't you have some sort of management or monitoring software which maybe can do this task "easily"?

  • Randarr The Barbarian
    Randarr The Barbarian Miesiąc temu +1

    I know that 16-20 lanes is gonna be enough for most people but it isn't enough. I spent good money on this i9 10850k and I have 16 lanes, 1 gpu and I'm done. That and ECC support, by all rights my dual E5 V3 server is much older and has more things that can go wrong, but in comparrison to my much newer (non-overclocked) rig it's rock solid stable.
    So I'm compromising on memory bandwidth by not running XMP on what is already 2 channels of RAM, and only 1 of my storage drives is NVME, and I have onboard audio that can't drive my high impedance headphones adequately, most of the USB ports on the board are full, the onboard 2.5g networking is buggy but adding another card runs back into lanes, and the fact that it's a K sku means nothing because it runs hotter than hades with a 360 rad so even if I wanted to put in the energy to tune it I'd have to tune it down... It's like, I spent way to much money already to have this much compromise. I was looking at doing a what would be a downgrade for gaming to an E5 V4 xeon until I found a relatively decent deal on a 3647 board combo and now that's been ordered.
    I honestly feel like the regular consumer standard (or at least some kind of enthusiast mid point) by this point should be 3 memory channels and 36 lanes like Westmere Xeons had.

  • Buck Duck
    Buck Duck Miesiąc temu +3

    Linus does AMD exterme upgrade series later and then says AMD lied about a product, this guy got lots of balls.

    • Ping
      Ping 27 dni temu


  • cheeseisgreat24
    cheeseisgreat24 Miesiąc temu +3

    I always love the two different camps who come out of the woodwork whenever LTT makes a statement about money. I’ve recently had several people pounce on a comment I made about how much prices have actually come down relative to decades ago, because clearly since CPUs aren’t now down to $2 a pop, the prices are getting too expensive, despite the fact that for many things they’ve gone from several thousand dollars for a home computer to several hundred dollars when adjusted for inflation, and if you go back further, going for many thousands of dollars in today’s money. 🤣

  • CaMiX
    CaMiX 26 dni temu +1

    It's not "flexing" when you are doing it through a sponsored video just to get free stuff. The videos I have a problem with are when you show off some extravagant project that no one could possibly afford and you are doing it because it benefits only your business and it's all free to you through "sponsorship".

  • Ranting Raymond
    Ranting Raymond Miesiąc temu +1

    Threadripper was the reason I got my IT job. I'm still furious they dumped enthusiasts on the curb

    • DaDabler
      DaDabler Miesiąc temu

      How'd the chip get you the job? No hate but genuinely curious

  • Renna Rose
    Renna Rose Miesiąc temu +1

    wouldn't that video idea just be a normal business inventory audit? XD

  • Kian Grey
    Kian Grey Miesiąc temu

    Just make any video you want, you can't please everyone on a platform like PLclip. Everyone has an opinion and generally they're honestly bad. People get offended by literally everything too. You'll find trolls and haters all around. You guys are one of the only tech channels I watch because Linus actually has a good head on his shoulders and makes sense 9/10

  • Yarma
    Yarma Miesiąc temu

    The point is from my perspective that if you make the enthusiasts angry you will sell less from you consumer Hardware, because this are the people who are building for example the PCs for normal people who just want a custome computer for example.

  • Forrest Dweller
    Forrest Dweller Miesiąc temu

    didnt amd basicly confirm the 7xxx threadrippers?

  • Colonel Angus
    Colonel Angus 18 dni temu

    A new $6000 cpu
    So very exciting for dozens of people around the globe.

  • Coalition Gaming
    Coalition Gaming Miesiąc temu +4

    As a content creator that likes to make Xeon content....I can't wait for these to hit ebay in 6-8 years for $40-$50!

  • Peter Dowling
    Peter Dowling Miesiąc temu

    Start to finish well said.

  • Will Wunsche
    Will Wunsche 9 dni temu

    It's a shame with the money stuff. I think most people that complain about that from the perspective of "oh that's so cheap for me/you" even if it's $700 or "$75 for a motherboard combo that's so expensive for me" is pretty immature. I think we should know how relativeness works by now

  • angry fish
    angry fish Miesiąc temu

    i hate this beeps 🥴but this is good i finally can consider to buy something more relable for computing

  • Сергей Смирнов
    Сергей Смирнов Miesiąc temu +1

    Don't they have an inverntory system where they track every single component in every single maschine? Why would they need a person to go aroung and count all mashines?

    • Brandon W.
      Brandon W. Miesiąc temu

      Because that'd be the interactive/visually intriguing part. Watching a spreadsheet isn't fun, watching someone walk through the office is! There's been a few videos on the main channel and Channel Super Fun where they walk through the office and talk to employees for varying reasons and that's the appealing part; they could've just done a voiceover, or read off what people said (sometimes happens) or had them sit down in a set (also sometimes happens) but those are only situational intriguing.
      I guess it's all situational, and subjective, too. But that's my viewpoint on it :]

  • Chance Finley
    Chance Finley 28 dni temu

    I think a better filter on people's ignorant statements around tech is going to be hard to ignore. But in the same stance of don't piss off your user base, sounding confrontational when disproving a user, is a harsh way to go about it. You can use your rebuttals in a constructive way to inform the user kindly and others, rather than out right saying the are outright incorrect.
    It's all personal opinions and anonymity mashing together fueling feuds across the internet

  • lx DINGO xl
    lx DINGO xl Miesiąc temu

    Instead of "that's a lot of money" "that's not a lot of money" just make it "that's money" lol

  • Explodated Faces
    Explodated Faces Miesiąc temu +1

    I think if the first example you come up with for why server enterprise-level chips are not right for you is "they don't overclock" you've already lost the argument. It has been almost a decade since overclocking made any substantial difference that would meaningfully impact the results of productive work. There is a huge difference between a 4% increase in an artificial benchmark score and a jump in product category without paying for it because you changed a number in your software. Even when someone is fully engaged in heavy workloads it is extremely rare to find someone utilizing 100% of their 32-core server CPU or their 96-core server CPU for more than a second or two. Entire fortune 500 companies run on less computing power than that, in fact the global bank I work for rests almost entirely on a few 16 core CPUs and some virtual machines that have 250mb of memory allocated to them.

  • nhibbs3
    nhibbs3 Miesiąc temu

    Make it floatplane exclusive

  • Good Baleada
    Good Baleada Miesiąc temu +4

    We won't agree because Linus lives in a house that probably cost 1.5 million, but all of you would look at it and say it's not worth more than 500,000 because that's the market of Vancouver and also Linus living in Vancouver needs to be more aware of these sort of things because in his neighborhood the homelessness there makes it look like district 9 with icicles

    • Good Baleada
      Good Baleada Miesiąc temu +2

      @Robb Hays The vast majority are construction workers who got hurt on the job or people who can't get help for their illnesses. The illegal drugs that the police force on society in order to keep their budgets high so they can have a high security presence are just a byproduct of these cruelties we force on people

  • Boggan Alseryd
    Boggan Alseryd Miesiąc temu

    So with 100+ppl working here you can't produce more content? You should be able to do atleast 10+ long videos / day

  • D Tibor
    D Tibor Miesiąc temu

    I have some engineering samples of rapid saphire server chips at my workplace. No, I can't benchmark it.

  • EndermanAPM
    EndermanAPM Miesiąc temu +1

    Maybe could be a floatplane exclusive, I feel like the audience there should be more reasonable

  • Nivea87
    Nivea87 Miesiąc temu

    Is Intel not near bankruptcy?

    • ToQ43
      ToQ43 29 dni temu +1

      Fuck no they're not. You don't just go from market leader for 30 years to bankruptcy in 2.

  • Michael
    Michael 12 dni temu

    "intel xeon is saving the day"-3 weeks later "intel xeon is absolute dogcrap. The only thing it's useful for is heavy AI applications, so maybe in the future this system will be useful-but you will probably need to buy new chips then anyway. This current gen is overpriced for performance, and just has terrible performance in general". Linus let himself get hyped, which any gamer/techie should know better than to do.

  • Ymi_Yugy
    Ymi_Yugy Miesiąc temu

    I think a video totaling the cost of all IT equipment would be flexing, but what concerns me more is the extent of censorship Linus is willing to impose on his writers just because viewers voice disagreement or criticize him.

  • Iisakki Kaaretkoski
    Iisakki Kaaretkoski Miesiąc temu

    Nice Renault shirt linus!

  • Hailstorm
    Hailstorm Miesiąc temu +5

    Why does Linus wear renault logo?

  • Tim
    Tim Miesiąc temu

    1:50 ... simple, just present the facts no subjective qualifications.

  • TommyLYeah
    TommyLYeah Miesiąc temu

    But can they play Crysis?

  • Cortney Webb
    Cortney Webb Miesiąc temu +1

    I thought reviews were supposed to be today?

  • TeslaInvestah
    TeslaInvestah Miesiąc temu

    I have one thing to say about your new writing policy, Linus:
    fh hgfdu habva jfgjfk hhhhhhh money.

  • Alexander Kenway
    Alexander Kenway Miesiąc temu +2

    Bro you pay too much attention to comments. No matter what people will complain

  • k2aka111
    k2aka111 Miesiąc temu

    Wait, so Intel makes a HEDT product that only has support for 1 or 2 generations and it's better than AMD's 1 or 2 generation BS?

    • ZIHE Chen
      ZIHE Chen 22 dni temu

      The thing is intel stay consistent when amd broke their business as always

  • KlipschHead281
    KlipschHead281 25 dni temu

    The fact people can't remove themselves from what YOU spend for YOUR business without being butthurt says where we are today, it's pathetic.

  • Jack Rametta
    Jack Rametta Miesiąc temu

    For God's sake please survey your audience or run AB tests, stop drawing strong inferences from the comments!

  • Jan Rozema
    Jan Rozema Miesiąc temu

    Sry to hear that (money remarks)

  • Cats does fpv
    Cats does fpv Miesiąc temu


  • NoMercyInc
    NoMercyInc Miesiąc temu

    Companies lie. It’s not mind blowing or even important

  •  darkphotographer studio
    darkphotographer studio Miesiąc temu

    yee f you amd , got my x99 with 5820 in 2015 , was able to buy a xeon 12 core for 60euro and few year out of my system , and will still be able to get better chip donw the line , amd fx , yee no , amd thredreper no ,

  • crwl8
    crwl8 Miesiąc temu


  • John Sims
    John Sims Miesiąc temu


  • General Zimmer
    General Zimmer Miesiąc temu +2

    Almost first!

  • Kyryll Vlasiuk
    Kyryll Vlasiuk Miesiąc temu +1

    Proceeds to talk about everything but the new intel.

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    GuardianOfExile Miesiąc temu


  • Ben Knight
    Ben Knight Miesiąc temu


  • isshyfux
    isshyfux Miesiąc temu +6

    People need to stop being cheap and thinking poor. The pc hobby is expensive asf and if you cant afford it, dont get into it.

    • DaShinyDragonMon
      DaShinyDragonMon Miesiąc temu

      ​@J S What you described is learning skills and having a useful PC, not being into PCs as a hobby. The guy worded it poorly, but he likely meant enthusiasts or people with better than average tastes in terms of PC performance.

    • J S
      J S Miesiąc temu

      Clearly people in struggling financial situations who want to learn a new hobby and join the fun and (oftentimes) inclusive community around PC building should just (sarcastically) get real and stop thinking like a piece of filth born into poverty, and just stop being cheap.
      Seriously, if someone wants to build a computer for only $100, that's a good thing. They want to learn and budget appropriately for their computer. We should help them to not just play the games at the resolutions and framerates they want, but access the internet, learn to code, run multiple operating systems, build a file server from used hard drives, anything to help them learn and join the community of PC builders.

    • James Campbell
      James Campbell Miesiąc temu +2

      It’s kind of hard in the present climate not to think poor.
      People are paying obviously inflated prices for hardware that is not worth that much money, and hey, if it makes you happy, and you can afford it, fine.
      However, it’s a fact that what was once a hobby accessible to more people is becoming less accessible again. It’s a lot like the tech hobby was in the 80s.
      The 90s and early 2000s made PC hardware that was improving generation on generation by great strides, and got cheaper as that was happening.
      People right now are paying $1600 for a product that gets them 30% at best more performance in real terms without all the stopgap features.